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Fans Have a Theory About That Final Twist in 'You' Season 2


This post contains spoilers for You season 2—consider yourself warned.

If you’re anything like me, you devoured the second season of You on Netflix immediately upon its release on December 26. Honestly, I regret nothing. The show is nothing if not wildly entertaining—and also just generally wild. The second season brought Joe (Penn Badgley) to Los Angeles, where he goes by “Will” and is trying to hide from his not-so-dead ex Candace. Of course, it doesn’t take long before he meets the next object of his obsession, a woman literally named Love.

The twists and turns of the plot are fast and furious which is one of the shows many delights. But (and again, spoilers ahead!) most of us didn’t peg Love for being a totally murderous human who has no problem slitting throats to protect people in her life. That wasn’t the final surprise, however. In the final scenes, we see Joe and a pregnant Love moving into an idyllic-looking house.

Has Joe finally changed now that he’s settling with someone more like him? LOL, of course not. Joe peers through the fence and spots a neighbor sitting poolside reading Kafka, Jane Austen, and Aldous Huxley. “This is just the beginning, because this is where I had to be. Exactly where I had to be to meet you. There you were with your books and your sunshine. So close, but worlds away. I will figure out a way: a way to get to you. See you soon, neighbor,” Joe narrates.

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But who is she?

Well, the prominent fan theory on the internet at the moment is that the woman is Joe’s mom. We see her in flashbacks throughout the season where she leaves him to go off with various men and is also the victim of an abusive husband. “The neighbor is probably his mom. Also, Love is crazy. Might be crazier than Joe. She gave me Gone Girl vibes,” one person tweeted. “Why are some people confused about the last scene? that woman/neighbor was definitely joe’s mom. the hands were a dead give away… #YouNetflix,” another wrote.

Though a few people are still holding out hope that somehow Beck is still alive. Or perhaps it really will just be a new woman to stalk.

A third season of You has not been confirmed by Netflix, but it seems pretty likely. Badgley recently mentioned a new season in an interview, saying, “You know, dare I say, in the third season—oh, god!” before switching gears. Hopefully we’ll get an official announcement soon—until then, we’re all about internet theorizing.



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Victoria Pedretti Explains That Wild Plot Twist in You Season 2


Yeah, absolutely. I mean, my mind was blow when I found out Love killed Candace.

Ambyr [Childers, who plays Candace] is so great. Her character is so incredible. Her performance is so great in the show, as one of the only sane people who’s really fighting for some form of justice. [Love] doesn’t really always understand her methods, but she’s trying to protect people from this person who wronged her when she doesn’t really need to. She could just stay in Italy and be safe. But I think we know that when something bad happens and we’re scared it could affect other people, there’s this courage that can come out of it.

I thought it was a badass feminist move for Candace to advocate for getting people to stay away from Joe.

I’m definitely a woman who believes in sisterhood and the important place that women supporting other women plays in the whole movement towards equality. It’s incredible how in making up around 50% of the population, we are an oppressed majority. That has only been possible by us working against each other. That’s because of the structures that be and whatnot. [But we’re] reminding [people] that Joe is benefiting not only from the way in which we are programmed, but also by other people who protect him.

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What do you hope viewers take away from the second season?

I think it’s a mix of things. I think it’s important to focus on how our instincts can’t always show us everything, that it’s important to be careful about the interactions we have and the people we interact with. And at the same time, there’s so much beauty in taking risks and having trust. I hope we don’t walk around just scared of each other because of this show. I think there’s different things for everyone. Everyone’s going to relate to it differently and take something else away from it. I hate to tell people what to think.

Would you be down for a third season?

Yeah!

Do you have any dreams for how it would go, or are you open to anything?

No. I think I learned pretty early on that I can’t predict shit with this show, so I’m ready to be blown away.

You season 2 is now streaming on Netflix.

This interview has been edited and condensed for clarity.

Christopher Rosa is the staff entertainment writer at Glamour. Follow him on Instagram @chris.rosa92.





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Not Even Ambyr Childers Saw That You Season 2 Plot Twist Coming


Did you ever hope that Candace and Love would team up and take Joe down together?

Here’s the thing: It’s only on the second season. The show must go on. I think one of the reasons the show is successful is Joe just always wins. It goes back to, again, what is it about Joe Fucking Goldberg? I don’t get it. He’s just one of those guys who is constantly going to get away with it. Just when you think he’s going to get caught, either he doesn’t get caught and he gets himself out of it, or someone comes and saves him.

What were you most shocked by on the show, and what do you think is going to shock viewers the most?

Love! She plays this beautiful, vulnerable, sweet, broken human being. When she killed Candace in the end, it’s just like, I don’t think people are going to see that coming. You don’t. What you think is because Candace is back, somehow she’s going to figure a way out to get Joe back. And, yeah, she does in little ways, but ultimately you can’t put up a fight against him. That’s just the way it is.

There’s such a cult phenomenon around this show. I’m sure you get asked all the time about the second season. How have you been able to keep all of these plot twists a secret?

If I gave away [spoilers], I don’t think Netflix would ever hire me. But in all seriousness, that’s what’s fun: seeing people’s reactions and those surprises. Because it’s on a streaming platform, it’s going to happen so quickly that you don’t want to give the storyline away. That’s not cool. When you have such a great following, their reactions are going to be everything. When you’re on a show like this, you live for how people respond to the twists in the storylines.

What do you hope fans take away from the season?

The importance of safety, for men and women who are out there dating. Maybe that sounds super cheesy because I’m a mother and I want to protect everybody, but it’s reality. It makes you think about it automatically, especially in the first season. It definitely makes you think of like, “Oh shit, my stuff needs to go on private.” Or, “I really need to think twice about who I accept or be friends [with] or go out with or swipe right,” or whatever it is. I think, for me, that would be the main thing.

Christopher Rosa is the staff entertainment writer at Glamour. Follow him on Instagram @chris.rosa92.





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Why Fans Aren't Happy With Game of Thrones' Daenerys Targaryen Twist


Caution: Spoilers for Game of Thrones ahead.

I talk a big game about wanting the women of Game of Thrones to step on me, shove me off a castle wall, roast me with a dragon. But I also have the energy of that girl from Mean Girls, the one who “doesn’t even go here” but still wants everyone to be friends—I’m very tender! Which is why last night, on the second to last episode of Game of Thrones, I did not like seeing Daenerys Targaryen take a turn for the worse and step into her true power as the Mad Queen.

It was a destiny many GoT have fans prophesied, yet people were still shocked by it. I was not. Daenerys was always bound to become the Mad Queen. The only thing that surprised me was how much I hated watching it happen. I’m not alone:

Since the first season, Dany was a “good guy,” the one leader of Westeros who wanted to bring peace and positive change to the realm. However, she’s also shown an extremely brutal side of herself—from eating a stallion’s heart, to siccing her dragons on Randyll Tarly and his son, to burning the leaders of Meereen.

With that past in mind, I’m not sure why so many people were stunned that Dany decided to decimate King’s Landing despite their surrender. She’s always been one of the most powerful characters on Game of Thrones.

But as much as I want her to utter the word “Dracarys” at me and feel the wrath of her dragonfire as my skin melts off, it hurts to watch this development. Maybe that’s because we’ve watched a person who was supposed to represent all that’s good in the world become radicalized by those who have wronged her. We root for the “Golden Boy” character in great epics—the morally sound Wonder Woman, “the chosen one” like Harry Potter. These characters are plagued by their own darkness or lured into evil by their nemesis, but they always end up doing the right thing in the end. Daenerys was supposed to be that Golden Girl. Until she wasn’t.

I thought that would be an interesting arc. I thought I’d enjoy watching her become the Mad Queen and scream “yes bitch” at the TV every time Drogon’s wings clapped at her haters. But with all the devastating, terrible things going on in the real world right now, actually seeing my favorite female character become the person we’re supposed to hate felt like the opposite of a fantasy.

Then again, I think Dany should have complexities. I stan Cersei in all her depravity. I’m obsessed with Arya and her bloodlust. All of us are both good and bad, and I’m not particularly interested in a female character who’s perfect. A woman who hasn’t made mistakes.

With that in mind, I think what plagued me the most about Daenerys’ downfall wasn’t that her eight-season character arc set her up for greatness, only to come crumbling down with the walls of King’s Landing. Maybe it was my fear that Jon Snow will take the Iron Throne. Screw—and I cannot stress this enough—that.

The women of Game of Thrones are the northern star of this show. Arya, Sansa, Cersei, and Daenerys have all been through more and overcome more than Jon Snow could ever imagine. The women on this show persist. They endure. They grow stronger despite their wicked circumstances. And despite it all, with one episode left in the series, I worry that a man who is weaker emotionally—and, let’s be real, as a warrior—than many of his female counterparts will helm the Throne. Snow represents, to me, all the ways in which male mediocrity is often heralded over female greatness.



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The 'Charmed' Reboot Is Officially Happening, and It's Getting a 'Feminist' Twist


It’s official: 2018 is the year of the witch. First, news broke the CW is making a Riverdale sister series about Sabrina the Teenage Witch. (That show is still happening, by the way; it’s just been moved to Netflix.) And now a reboot that was announced last year is officially, officially happening: Charmed. Yes, members of my coven, the show that essentially brought witches into the mainstream is coming back. And we finally have some details.

The logistics from last year’s vague report still hold up: The reboot is happening at the CW. According to Entertainment Weekly, the network has already put in a pilot order. Jessica O’Toole and Amy Rardin, who have credits on Jane the Virgin, are writing the script, so get excited.

That’s not all we know, though. This reboot is also receiving a great—and necessary—feminist twist. Per EW, the CW describes this new incarnation as a “fierce, funny, feminist reboot.” “Between vanquishing supernatural demons, tearing down the patriarchy, and maintaining familial bonds, a witch’s work is never done,” the network’s official description reads.

Oh, and there’s one more detail that’ll really make fans happy: The reboot’s happening in the present-day—not the ’70s, as previously reported—which opens the opportunity for the Charmed OGs (Alyssa Milano, Rose McGowan, Holly Marie Combs, and Shannen Doherty) to make cameos. Milano and McGowan are both vocal feminist activists now, so they should especially consider dropping by Halliwell Manor again. Cast a spell, and maybe it’ll happen.

There’s no official premiere date for the Charmed reboot yet, but fingers crossed it happens sooner rather than later. It’s high time for a new generation to learn all about Prue, Piper, and Phoebe.

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Outlander Season 3, Episode 3 Recap: A Major Character Dies in a Shocking Twist, But Alas, Still No Sex


The article centers on Season 3, Episode 3 of Outlander: “All Debts Paid.” If you’re not yet caught up with the show, be warned: spoilers abound.

The title of this week’s episode, “All Debts Paid,” ends up being quite prescient for Jamie, Claire, and Frank, as loose threads are tied and we end up well positioned for a Jamie-Claire reunion in the hopefully near future. Though many questions are answered in this week’s episode, the grand tease continues, which is to say there is no sex in this episode. None. The struggle is ever so real. The action in this episode alternates between the 18th century and the 20th century, moving years forward at a time, and we finally see much of what happened to our three musketeers during the twenty years Jamie and Claire are apart.

Jamie isn’t faring so well back in the 18th century, but it could be and has been worse. (Outlander has never been afraid of subjecting the show’s characters to all manner of trauma as a means of advancing the plot.) At the top of the episode, Jamie is in an English prison and there is a new governor—Lord John William Grey—whom Jamie, somehow, doesn’t recognize. Yes, this is the same Grey who owed Jamie a debt of honor. (He turns up at the most narratively convenient times, doesn’t he?) In prison, Jamie is the clear leader of the Scottish Highlanders, but the English still see him as the notorious “Red Jamie.” Murtagh is revealed to be still alive and among the other Scottish prisoners. Though he’s sickly, he still has the sharp wit we’ve come to know and love.

In a feeble attempt to create a bit more plot during this episode, there is a rumor of a cache of gold King Louis supposedly sent to the Jacobites, which is hidden somewhere in the Highlands. A raving old man, Ducan Kerr, was found wandering the moor, talking about the “cursed” gold, which intrigues the new governor. Grey knows that if he finds the gold, he can improve his standing with the crown. He summons Jamie, who speaks Gallic and French, to translate what the old man is saying. At first, Jamie declines, what with being honorable and uninterested in helping the English. Then Grey offers to have his irons removed, and to provide the sickly Murtagh with a blanket, and I guess when you’re in prison, it’s the little things, so Jamie agrees.

Kerr doesn’t say much that makes sense but he does mention a “white witch” who “seeks a brave man,” and “will come for you.” Jamie, of course, knows Kerr is talking about Claire. When Grey demands to know what Kerr has said, Jamie says the old man was speaking of white witches and superstitious nonsense. That answer doesn’t satisfy Grey, who threatens to make Jamie talk, but considering all that Jamie has been through, he is not impressed. Basically, he stares Grey down and is all, “Do your worst,” and that’s that.

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Grey invites Jamie to dine with him, as the previous governor did, and they enjoy a meal of pheasant, carrots, and dinner rolls. Jamie also asks for permission for the prisoners to hunt by setting snares when they’re cutting peat, and to gather watercress. Grey agrees to these conditions and it seems the men are becoming tentative friends. Later, in the cell, Jamie shares the details of the meal with the other prisoners and one asks him to go slow so he can “savor every morsel.” It’s all very grim.

On an outing to cut peat, the prisoners create a distraction and we realize Jamie’s request for the prisoners to hunt was, in part, a ruse for him to escape, which he does. Grey is incensed and tries to hunt Jamie down, to no avail. A few days later, Jamie sneaks up on Grey as he is relieving himself, and Jamie makes clear that he finally remembers who Grey is. He tells Grey that he didn’t really want to escape, he just wanted to see if Claire might have found her way back to him. In not finding Claire, he had no motivation to do anything but return to prison. Jamie gives Grey the opportunity to follow through on his promise to kill Jamie, kneeling in front of him. Grey picks up his sword but refuses, saying, “I am not a murderer of unarmed prisoners.” As with this season’s premiere, Jamie’s death wish is denied and thank goodness for that. There is still amazing sex to be had between he and Claire.

During another cozy evening together, Grey and Jamie play chess before a roaring fire. Grey admits he lost a very close friend during the Battle of Culloden, and it’s obvious he means he lost a lover, when he laments, “Some people you grieve over forever.” It’s certainly interesting to see the show introducing a queer character in the 18th century and the only shame of this storyline is that it is, as queer storylines often tend to be in popular culture, grounded in loss, sorrow, and unrequited feelings. Certainly, queerness in the 18th century was not accepted by society and the show is being accurate, but the point still stands. True progress for us in this time will be marked by more queer storylines that don’t doom queer characters to lonely misery.

As they chat, Jamie admits Claire was his wife and was never truly in danger when he and Grey first met (in Season 2, when Jamie pretended to threaten Claire’s life to make Grey talk). During a quiet moment, Grey gently places his hand over Jamie’s and Jamie stills. The effects of the trauma he suffered at the hands of Black Jack Randall clearly still linger. In a hoarse whisper Jamie says, “Take your hand off me or I will kill you.” Just like that, any friendship these two might have shared disappears. Jamie excuses himself and Grey is left alone, crying. Of course.

Shortly after that, the prison is shuttered and the Highlanders, including Murtagh, are shipped to the colonies to work as indentured servants, where after 14 years they can earn their freedom. Grey takes Jamie, however, to a different location—Hellwater, where Grey will check on Jamie every quarter to be sure he’s well looked after. It’s all an elaborate way of discharging the debt he owes Jamie, though he cautions Jamie to go by another name as he starts his new life. That’s how things are left in the 18th century.

In Boston, things are increasingly tense between Claire and Frank, as they try to make their marriage of inconvenience work. Frank prepares a traditional English breakfast for the family to remind daughter Brianna of her roots and Claire, feeling warm toward Frank, asks if he wants to see a movie. Frank admits he’s already seen both movies Claire suggests and we learn that Frank and Claire have come to an agreement. They are married but living separate lives, free to see other people. “I’m being discreet, Claire,” Frank says and that’s that. Claire is quite surprised and it’s interesting to see her grappling with this new reality where Frank isn’t just sitting around pining for her. For once, Frank has done something unexpected; he has a bit of tooth to him. Unfortunately, that tooth gets longer and sharper as the episode goes on. Hell hath no fury like a man scorned.

Claire and Frank Randall Outlander Episode 303

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On her medical school graduation day, Claire and Frank have a small gathering at home. The party is meant to move to a restaurant but Frank can’t go because of “work.” Frank, unfortunately, is a terrible liar and claims he had the reservation time wrong. Lo and behold, his side piece, Sandy, shows up during the party. Claire tries to smile it off and ushers everyone off to the restaurant but later that night, both she and Frank are drunk and angry and they have what is clearly a long-simmering argument but in the well-mannered way that English people fight. Claire says she was humiliated; Frank tells Claire that this turnabout is fair play because she has convinced no one that they are a happy couple. Claire asks Frank if he has fucked his “harlot” in their bedroom and Frank says, “I think our bedroom is far too crowded already, wouldn’t you agree?” With that question, we see that it was never going to be possible for Claire and Frank to work out. They had good intentions about staying together, but good intentions are never enough to make a marriage work. Jamie was and always would be standing between them. Claire suggests they divorce but Frank refuses because he will not lose Brianna. Onward, the marriage of inconvenience goes, but it is clearly a much darker, colder relationship.

Claire and Frank celebrate Brianna’s 16th birthday, and then, it is 1966, and Brianna is graduating from high school. Claire is home after a difficult surgery when Frank has some news—he wants to take Brianna to England. Frank admits he has been offered a position at Cambridge. Claire is immediately stressed, saying she can’t up and leave her job, her patients, etc., and Frank drops the bomb—he’s not asking Claire to join him. Frank asks for a divorce, and admits he is going to marry his side piece, Sandy. As you might expect, there is cruelty left in him yet. He tells Claire that between medical school and her job, she hasn’t really been there for Brianna—as if that is a justification for taking her child from her. They have another terrible fight and Claire says Frank is free to divorce her, but he cannot claim adultery.

More bitter words are exchanged and finally, Frank says, “You couldn’t look at Brianna without seeing him, could you? Without that constant reminder, might you have forgotten him, with time?” Claire admits, “That amount of time doesn’t exist.” It is a chilling moment, at once true, and the most precise and cruel thing Claire could say to Frank. Frank grabs the keys and angrily leaves the house. With Brianna entering adulthood, there is nothing tethering Claire and Frank together and it’s painfully clear, as Claire points out, that Frank was just biding his time, waiting until he could be free of a marriage that was a pale shadow what he’d wanted with Claire. In the end, it seems like Frank stayed in the marriage more to punish Claire for not loving him the way she loved Jamie, rather than to be a father to Brianna.

Later that night, Claire is called into surgery. When she comes out of the operating room, her colleague Joe Abernathy is the bearer of bad news—Frank has died in a car accident. Claire runs to his side, and alas, it is the gesture Frank waited their entire marriage for, too little, too late. Claire tells him she did love him, very much. “You were my first love,” she whispers, before kissing his lips.

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And just like that, the episode is over. In some ways, it is a relief that Frank is out of the picture, but as with the show’s portrait of Lord Grey as the tragic gay man, killing Frank off is the simplest way to advance the plot toward an inevitable Claire-Jamie reunion. I cannot help but wonder how much more nuanced and textured this show’s storytelling would be if the writers didn’t always take the easy way out.

Roxane Gay is the author of Bad Feminist, Difficult Women, and most recently, Hunger. She is also the author of World of Wakanda for Marvel and a contributing opinion writer for The New York Times.



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