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Is Taylor Swift Engaged to Joe Alwyn? Fans Think So After Watching ‘Miss Americana’


Is Taylor Swift about to become Taylor Swift-Alwyn? Some fans seem to think so after watching Miss Americana, the pop star’s new documentary that dropped on Netflix on January 31.

The scene that sparked a million fan theories takes place when Swift is describing her choice to start speaking out about her political views and be on “the right side of history.” Taking a look back, that jewelry the singer wears in the interview clip does look like it could be an engagement ring. (Not to mention, it is on her left hand.)

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But did Alwyn, Swift’s boyfriend of three years, propose? Miss Americana director Lana Wilson claims she is none the wiser on that particular subject. “Whoa. I’m going to have to revisit that scene,” she told InStyle.

Either way, some Swifties on social media are rolling with it.

However, not all are convinced. One user believes Swift would “let her fans know.”

Would she, though? For the entirety of her relationship with the actor, their romance has been incredibly low-key. I mean, this picture is the closest image on Getty I could find of the two of them kind of both looking at the camera.

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Taylor…could you just…lift your head, like, two centimeters?

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In Miss Americana, Swift explains that Alwyn was a big part of her self-exile from media after the whole Kim Kardashian West Receipt-gate. “When people fall out of love with you, there’s nothing you can do to make them change their mind,” she says in the doc. “They just don’t love you anymore. I just wanted to disappear. Nobody physically saw me for a year and that was what I thought they wanted.” Her relationship with Alwyn helped immensely.

“I also was falling in love with someone who had a really wonderfully normal, balanced, grounded life,” she continues. “And we decided together that we wanted our relationship to be private.” More important, there was nothing staged about their love story, something that the singer has been accused of more than once. “I wasn’t happy in the way I was trained to be happy. It was happiness without anyone else’s input. It’s, just, we were happy.”

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Engagement ring or not, we are happy for you, Tay.





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Joe From ‘You’ Is a Murderer, but Some Women Would Date Him


Brittani, a 30-year-old nurse, says she would “absolutely not” go out with Joe. (“He murders people at the drop of a hat. No thank you.”) But she says she enjoys hearing his inner monologue and “brutally honest” opinions. “I also admire how smart and organized he can be,” she says. Other women describe Joe as “sexy” and “ready to do anything for loved ones,” even knowing what they know about the character.

And many women say that Joe reminds them of men they’ve already dated, who they describe as stalkers and abusers. One woman I spoke to said of Joe, “Knowing what I know, I wouldn’t even look [Joe’s] way. I wouldn’t even want to associate with him for fear of not only my life but anyone I know as well.”

“I’ve had many men become obsessed with me in my lifetime and it’s not fun,” she says. “In fact, it can turn scary real quick!” These men, she says, “go to extreme lengths” to keep other people from being close to you. “Maybe [they haven’t] killed anyone in a literal sense, but they slowly kill who you are and your other relationships,” she says.

Another You fan I interviewed spoke about how she’s currently reconsidering her relationship with her husband, who she says exhibited “similar behavioral traits” to Joe at the beginning of their relationship.

“The writer was brilliant in making the character Joe,” she says. “They made him exhibit loyal behaviors most women—or men, for that matter—long for in a self-absorbed world. People justify Joe’s wrongdoing because it’s morally intertwined with a justified feeling from their perspective.”

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Shymaa agrees. “The writer gave people what they wanna see in themselves,” she says. “It’s a criminal reflection of most people’s true selves…especially women. I mean, don’t we just love ‘light stalking’ our partners sometimes?” To many people, identifying with the characters on the show, and particularly lusting after Joe, is crazy. But a lot of female fans made it clear that they are able to see even the bloodiest storylines as allegorical, even while acknowledging that those same storylines (stalking, killing, sex crimes), however dramatized on You, are very real threats in their lives.

Watching their own worst nightmares come true onscreen—the same way huge numbers of women devour true-crime podcasts and binge SVU episodes—is how women have always experienced entertainment. At least, many seem to be saying, let the made up perpetrator be really, really hot.

Badgley has claimed that interest in Joe, interest even in You, is a sign of our own moral corruption. “In a more just society, we would all see Joe as problematic and not be interested in the show, but that’s not the society we live in,” he said.

But the women who professed love and desire for Joe seem perfectly aware that he’s problematic. They’re used to problematic men. They’re used to risking violence when they go on dates.

They’re chasing desire in an unjust world. An anavrin, as the show puts it—a twisted, backward, nirvana.

Jenny Singer is a staff writer for Glamour. Follow her on Twitter @JeanValjenny.





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This You Season 2 Fan Theory Suggests Joe Isn't the Father of Love's Baby


This post contains spoilers for You season two. Proceed at your own risk.

Have you recovered from all the twists and turns in You season two on Netflix yet? It was quite a ride watching Joe carve out a new life for himself in Los Angeles as “Will” and become obsessed with a new woman—the aptly-named, Love.

But as you know, Love isn’t exactly the sweet, organic juice-drinking Angeleno she originally appeared to be. By the end of the season, we came to learn that she, too, is a murderer who fundamentally believes her actions are justified. She’s just protecting the people she loves, right? Love also drops a big bombshell on Joe: She’s pregnant. In the final scenes, we see the couple moving into a new house with her baby bump on display.

Fans, however, have a theory about said pregnancy that has a lot of evidence behind it. They think the baby isn’t actually Joe’s, but her ex Milo’s. During a breakup after Love discovers Joe/Will has been lying about his identity, she briefly reconnects with her old flame, who also happens to be her dead ex-husband’s best friend.

Honestly, this theory tracks. It’s weird Joe doesn’t question the timing of Love’s pregnancy at all or the fact that Love blurts out this news in an attempt to save her own life.

” I have a very strong theory for You season 3 and your thoughts on it. I believe the baby is not Joe’s it’s Milo’s. After Love broke up with him she had sex with Milo. Love and Joe didn’t get back together until he was getting ready to leave LA in the final episodes,” one fan tweeted. Another posted, “Since Love is a professional liar, what if the baby is actually Milo’s and her saying she told him to use protection is just an excuse for Joe to stay with her ?,”

As You has proven in its two seasons, no theory is too wild or twist too weird, but we’ll just have to wait and see how this all turns out. While no official announcement has been made regarding season three, we’re keeping our fingers crossed.



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Taylor Swift and Joe Alwyn Had a Rare Public Night Out Together at the Golden Globes 2020


Taylor Swift and boyfriend Joe Alwyn are notoriously private about their relationship. They rarely ever speak about each other in interviews—and while Swift’s music (especially the songs on her latest album, Lover) always offers up lots of apparent nuggets to interpret about her love life, the couple hardly ever appears together at public events.

They broke tradition for last night’s Golden Globes, where, after walking the red carpet separately, they met up inside and sat together for the actual awards show. She chose a floral gown by Etro for the event, where she was nominated for Best Original Song for “Beautiful Ghosts” from Cats. Though he wasn’t nominated, Alwyn (who starred in this year’s Harriet) looked quite dapper in a classic black tuxedo.

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Joe Alwyn at the 2020 Golden Globes
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Once the red carpet was done, the couple meet back up inside. “Taylor Swift came into the #GoldenGlobes through a back door with Joe Alwyn. Then she and a handful of security guards, as well as a man carrying her dress train, split off separately and went to the bar. They immediately exited through another side door,” L.A. Times reporter Amy Kaufman tweeted.

As is her usual awards show M.O., Swift offered up some great reaction shots in audience—and added Alwyn to the mix. Fans were thrilled, tweeting out all the best moments from the couple. One even thought they spotted the exact moment Swift got inspired for some new music: “How much u wanna bet taylor wrote a song about joe in that second?”

“The media will be saying in 2060 ‘young taylor swift and joe alwyn attending the 77th golden globe awards,'” another fan tweeted, speculating about the future of their relationship.

After the show, Swift changed into a black sparkling dress and the couple hit up the CAA after party. Here’s hoping we get to see more of these two together in 2020.





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Taylor Swift and Joe Alwyn Made a Rare Public Appearance Together at the SNL After-Party


For the past three years or so, Taylor Swift has kept her relationship with boyfriend Joe Alwyn pretty darn private. The two were reportedly first introduced at the Met Gala in 2016 (though that is still unconfirmed) and details about their coupledom have been more rare than those of Swift’s past relationships with celebs like Harry Styles, Jake Gyllenhaal, and Tom Hiddleston.

So fans have turned to Swift’s seventh album, Lover, dissecting every lyric, to try to learn more details about the actor. In fact, many think the lyrics on the record are basically a timeline of their love affair.

But even as we’ve gotten to “know” them a bit better as a couple, they rarely attend public events together. Until last night, that is, when Alwyn was on hand to support his girlfriend as she performed two songs on Saturday Night Live. They were also seen entering the show’s famed after-party together, hand-in-hand.

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Swift’s model friends, Gigi Hadid—fresh off her split from Tyler Cameron—and Martha Hunt, were also there to celebrate the singer.

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Taylor Swift's *Lover* Album Review: This Is a Complete Timeline of Her Relationship With Joe Alwyn


Taylor Swift released her highly-anticipated seventh studio album, Lover, on Friday, August 23. Lyrically, the 18-track record is reminiscent of her earlier albums, like Speak Now (2010) and Fearless (2008). Sonically, however, it’s more on par with Red (2012) or 1989 (2014). It’s arguably her most varied work to date—some of the songs are pure pop while others are more soulful and subdued. There’s even a glorious return to country. In short, there’s something for everyone.

There is one consistent through-line on Lover, though: Swift’s love for…well, love. The album is wildly romantic and thematically seems to track the timeline of a relationship, from its early stages to finally realizing the situation is serious. Knowing Swift’s previous music history, it’s safe to assume—or at least theorize—that Lover is about the progression of her relationship with British actor Joe Alwyn.

Swift is notoriously private about this—and there’s nothing on Lover that mentions him directly (save for the aptly-titled track “London Boy”). But half the fun of being a Taylor Swift fan is coming up with theories, and this is mine: In my opinion, Lover is her way of telling us how the Joe Alwyn relationship came to be. My evidence lies in this track-by-track review below.

Swift doesn’t start Lover with a love song, but rather a track where she proclaims all the people who once brought her down are no longer an issue. She mentions no one specifically, but it’s safe to assume she could be talking about her ex-boyfriends, Calvin Harris, who she dated before meeting Alwyn. It’s clear from Reputation things did not end on good terms with Harris, but Swift seems to have moved past the drama on “I Forgot You Existed.”

“How many days did I spend thinking about how you did me wrong?” she sings. “[I] lived in the shade you were throwing ’til all of my sunshine was gone.” In the chorus she proudly declares, “I forgot that you existed, and I thought that it would kill me, but it didn’t” before later saying, “I would’ve stuck around for ya, would’ve fought the whole town… [I] would’ve been there front row, even if nobody came to your show.” (Harris is a DJ.)

The gist of this song? Swift has shed the snakeskin from her Reputation era and is open to new possibilities.

Enter track two: “Cruel Summer,” which documents the flirty, occasionally tumultuous early stages of a relationship. “It’s new, the shape of your body. It’s blue, the feeling I’ve got,” Swift sings. In a separate section she says, “It’s cool, that’s what I tell him. No rules…We say we’ll just screw it up. In these trying times, we’re not trying.”

To me, this sounds like Alwyn and Swift’s earliest stage: a period where maybe they kept what was going on from friends and family. “I don’t want to keep secrets just to keep you,” she sings. And sometimes, this type of dynamic can cause drama: “Summer’s a knife,” Swift sings at one point.

But that stage ends quickly. By “Lover,” it seems Swift and Alwyn have become a full-on couple. In “Cruel Summer,” she sang about having “no rules” with a partner; now she says, “This is our place, we make the rules. “

“Have I known you 20 seconds or 20 years?” she sings later on. “Can I go where you go? Can we always be this close?…I’ve loved you three summers. Now honey, I want ’em all.”

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We deviate from a love story, slightly, on “The Man.” Here, Tay muses about how her career and reputation would have played out in the press if she were a man. “Every conquest I made would make me more of a boss to you,” she sings. “I’d be just like Leo in Saint Tropez.” (Some subtle Leonardo DiCaprio shade for ya!)



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