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Judy Woodruff Has Moderated Too Many Presidential Debates to Count


So I think there were bonds that transcended the competition, because we were all kind of in it together. But we did all want to do well in our careers. We were all competitive. You had to be competitive to do this work. You couldn’t relax. But we had a lot in common. Several of us had young children. Lesley had a daughter. I didn’t have children at first, but after I was married I ended up having three children. Ann Compton had, I think, four. So we would compare notes about family and things like that.

On one of the most memorable debates she’s moderated.

I’ve moderated a lot of primary debates over the years. But the one that’s the most memorable for me was in 1988. It was the vice presidential debate for the general election between [former United States Secretary of the Treasury] Lloyd Bentsen and [former Vice President] Dan Quayle. Quayle was the choice of George H.W. Bush and Bentsen was the choice of Michael Dukakis, who had been the governor of Massachusetts.

The truly memorable line from that debate was at one point Dan Quayle compared himself—because of his youth and the promise he held for the future—to JFK. Bentsen used that and seized on it and said, “Senator, I served with Jack Kennedy, I knew Jack Kennedy, Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. Senator, you are no Jack Kennedy.” And the room exploded. Those of us who were up there asking questions just figured, well, this is the end of this election. You know, he’s really showed him. But of course, Bush and Quayle went on to win the election even though Lloyd Bentsen had a great line that was the headline everywhere the next day.

On mentoring the next generation.

I try to be available as much as I can and reach out to younger female journalists when they arrive at PBS. Whatever their job is—whether they’re a desk assistant or a producer or on the air. I try to be available to them. I know it’s sometimes intimidating or forbidding for people to approach the anchor, but I try to be as available as possible and say, “Please come talk to me if there’s an issue or if you just want to just shoot the breeze or if you want to talk about your career or family or something, I’d like to be available.”

In the beginning of my career, there weren’t that many women. But today I’m so happy to be able to look around the newsroom and I see women who are researching, who are writing, reporting, shooting stories for us, editing. And I think we have a very open and frankly very diverse newsroom. That’s what we’re committed to. It’s bringing women along, bringing along people of color, people of all backgrounds.

I would put our newsroom up against just about any other when it comes to diversity. We’ve done quite a remarkable job I think, but the job is never done. I would never rest on our laurels and say, we have arrived. There are things we have to think about all the time. We are constantly thinking about whether our guests diverse. When we’re discussing the law or Congress or international affairs, foreign policy, have we thought about women, women’s perpsectives? Have we thought about guests who come from different nationalities and different ethnicities? The job is never done.

This interview has been edited and condensed.

Samantha Leach is the associate culture editor at Glamour. Follow her on Twitter and Instagram @_sleach.



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Céline Dion Debates the Ending of Titanic on 'The Tonight Show'


Céline Dion sang the most iconic song from Titanic and she’s been known to pay subtle odes to the film every once in a while— she even attended several haute couture shows in Paris wearing a a replica of the famous Heart of the Ocean necklace. So fittingly she has some thoughts on the iconic movie’s plot points.

On The Tonight Show Staring Jimmy Fallon earlier this week, the Canadian singer weighed in on one of the most divisive debates from the film: whether or not Rose should have moved over as the boat sank to make room for Jack on the floating door.

Fallon brought the question up, joking, “Céline, I always try to ask you a good Titanic question every time you’re here because I know you probably love those.” At first, she was reluctant to answer and cracked, “Don’t put me in trouble. What if they want to do a Titanic number two?” But eventually the singer offered a very funny and logical explanation that knocks some of the wind out of the debate. “First of all, if you look closely [at] the picture, Rose is maybe dead or totally frozen, and she’s not quite all there, okay?” she said. “Second of all, he doesn’t need an invitation. Come on, baby! Make himself comfortable. Jump in. You know?”

She also made a really smart point about Jack being physically unable to pull himself on to the door. “And then who did not think about this guy who is in the middle of the frozen ocean and that maybe all his body is so frozen that he didn’t have the strength to… ” she said, right before singing a line from the song, “Jump For My Love.”

Pretty much everyone, from Brad Pitt to Margot Robbie, has debated this question. The film’s star Kate Winslet even recreated the scene with Stephen Colbert to give Jack some space. But, of course, Céline just masterfully changed the entire door discourse, like the legend she is.



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What to Expect From the Six Female Candidates Taking the Stage at the Democratic Debates


Two nights. 20 candidates. Six hopefuls who happen to be women. After months of anticipation, the Democratic debates are finally here—and are expected to be like nothing we’ve ever seen before. Taking place on June 26 and 27, from 9 p.m. to 11 p.m. EST, each night will feature 10 candidates selected at random to avoid putting all the top-tier Democrats on the same night.

First up? Tonight, Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), who has pulled ahead in the polls in recent weeks, squares off against New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio, Congressman Tim Ryan (D-Ohio), former Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Julián Castro, Senator Cory Booker (D-N.J.), former Congressman Beto O’Rourke, Senator Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.), Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii), Governor Jay Inslee (D-Wash.), and former Congressman John Delaney. Then comes some of the heavier hitters. On Thursday, former Vice President Joe Biden, South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg, Senator Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), Senator Kamala Harris (D-Calif.), Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.), Andrew Yang, Marianne Williamson, John Hickenlooper, former governor of Colorado, Senator Michael Bennet (D-Colo.), and Congressman Eric Swalwell (D-Calif.) will all face off.

While the topics of the debate haven’t been announced, NBC has shared who will be asking the questions. There will be five moderators for the two nights, including Today co-anchor Savannah Guthrie, NBC Nightly News host Lester Holt, Meet the Press moderator Chuck Todd, MSNBC host Rachel Maddow and Noticias Telemundo host José Diaz-Balart.

The debates will be available to watch on NBC, MSNBC, and Telemundo and free to stream on NBCNews.com, MSNBC.com, the NBC News app, and all Telemundo digital platforms. But before you get your popcorn (and much-needed glass of wine) out to watch the debates, here’s everything you need to know about the female candidates’ strategies for the big night.

Senator Kamala Harris (D–Calif.)

When She’ll Appear: The California senator will take the stage during the second night of the debates.

What She’ll Talk About: Harris recently proposed a massive tax cut for middle-class families, known as Livable Incomes for Families Today. It’s the most robust piece of policy on her platform and would provide refundable tax credits to families, and allow them to receive their benefits on a monthly basis. Harris will definitely try to touch on it, as well as her support of “Medicare for All.”

How They’ll Attack Her: Harris hasn’t been able to shake her “tough on crime” past in her campaign so far. While serving as the first female attorney general of California, she supported some criminal justice stances that some consider conservative. For example, she enforced an anti-truancy program and fought to release fewer incarcerated people. She’s already had to defend her record since announcing her run, so if anybody criticizes Harris, this is most likely how they’ll go for the jugular.

Senator Elizabeth Warren (D–Mass.)

When She’ll Appear: Warren will take part in the first night of the debates. According to The Hill, many think Warren got the “short end of the stick” being assigned to the first night, as this prevents her from debating Biden and Sanders, her closest opponents in the polls who will both appear during night two.

What She’ll Talk About: “Warren Has a Plan for That” has become the tagline of her campaign, and that’s exactly what she’ll hit on—her policies. Some of her proposals include a new tax on Americans with a net worth of $50 million or more, and would also tax billionaires an additional 1 percent. The economy is Warren’s passion point, and she’s also likely to discuss her proposed Accountable Capitalism Act, which would redistribute trillions from American corporations’ to the middle class.



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