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Norah O'Donnell on Her New Job as Anchor of 'CBS News'


A few hours before our interview, Norah O’Donnell decides to sleep in…until 6 a.m. This is new for her—the notion that she might be able to wake up around the same time as the rest, and she hasn’t quite adjusted. For the better part of a decade, O’Donnell co-hosted CBS This Morning and rose at what is for most people the middle of the night.

Next week, she shifts gears—and schedules. O’Donnell is about to take her seat in the anchor chair at CBS Evening News, making her the second woman ever to solo anchor the broadcast. Katie Couric held the position from 2006 to 2011. (Connie Chung co-anchored the program, with Dan Rather from 1993 to 1995.)

Her move comes at a time when trust in the news is at an all-time low and thanks to mobile alerts, social media, and a host of other distractions, there have never been more opportunities to avoid what was once appointment television for most American families. (Even so, the three major news broadcasts still command upwards of 20 million viewers a night.) That is, in both respects, O’Donnell has her work cut out for her, and she knows it. “The evening broadcast has to change,” she insists. “We are now living in a time when we already get the headlines on our phone. So how do we provide context and depth?”

“By 6:30 PM at night, we know what happened,” she says. “How can we explain why it happened? I think people are hungry for and craving a trusted source of unbiased, fact-based news. And that is our standard. And that’s, quite frankly, the brand of CBS already.”

Still, O’Donnell’s ascent is at once evidence of a new era at the network—which has started to recover from the exits of Charlie Rose, Leslie Moonves, and 60 Minutes Executive Producer Jeff Fager, who all stepped down amidst sexual misconduct and gender discrimination claims—and an obvious next step. She has covered congress, six presidential campaigns, and the White House. She’s interviewed half-a-dozen presidents and has stared down hurricanes, a red-faced Bill O’Reilly, and other natural disasters on live television.

So of course, it’s nice that a woman got the job this go-round. But as usual, it’s also about time.

Ahead of her first night in the same seat that famed anchor Walter Cronkite once occupied, O’Donnell spoke to Glamour about her ambitions for the show, how she found her voice in journalism, and what a person does when she misses a call from Oprah.

Glamour: I’ve heard your first anchor gig came at age 10. Is that true? And if so, I want to hear all about it.

O’Donnell (R), as a child in Seoul, South Korea.

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Norah O’Donnell: That’s true. My first anchor job was when I was 10 years old, in Seoul, South Korea. My father was a colonel in the US Army, and we were deployed to Seoul. We lived on the Yong Song army base for two years. It’s a tight knit community, and a friend of my mother’s said, “Hey I know about this opportunity,” because children in South Korea were required to learn English at a young age, and they were looking for people to make audiotapes and to do an English program on a station that was sort of the equivalent to a PBS.

That became my first job, essentially anchoring an English-learning program once a week on Korean television. I got a small paycheck every week and I’d go get Michael Jackson and Lionel Ritchie tapes. That was the beginning. I’ll never forget it. “Penny Lover“ by Lionel Ritchie was my favorite song.



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Natasha Lyonne Writes a Love Letter to Rosie O'Donnell


In a world short on joy, humor can be a unifier and a survival tool. In that spirit, we bring you our Comedy Issue, a monthlong celebration of funny (and fearless) women and the enduring power of a good laugh. Here Orange Is the New Black star Natasha Lyonne salutes the woman who made her see the value in being wholly authentic.

I first met Rosie when we worked together on a Nora and Delia Ephron play called Love, Loss, and What I Wore in 2008. Rosie had this one monologue called, “The Purse,” which Nora had written about giving up Hermès bags, and the absurdity of them. This was an eight-page monologue, and Rosie was literally able to take the audience in the palm of her hand and take them on a ride during it. The way she was able to lift and drop the volume of the audience’s laughter, it just became a piece of music. Working with Rosie, Nora, Delia, and Samantha Bee on that production taught me that there’s space for all of us. Between working on the play and doing Orange Is the New Black, I totally changed my tomboy perspective, and gained an appreciation for sharing the stage with other women.

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During the play I was coming out of a drug addicted time in my life, but Nora and Rosie adopted me into the fold, and it really healed me as a human being. Now Rosie and I are this odd couple, and we go to Broadway plays. She loves them; I loathe them. My god! Some of the productions I’ve had to sit through. It’s like nails on a chalkboard to me, but I look over and Rosie’s like, “C’mon, Tashy, that was amazing!” Then we go to Sardi’s and grab dinner.

What’s so wild about Rosie is that she’s such a subversive figure who was able to become mainstream. Recently, I rewatched an Ellen DeGeneres appearance on Rosie’s show, and they’re doing what they called the “Lebanese sketch.” It’s psychedelic! It was 1996, and they’re just dancing around being gay. Or watching her stuff in comedy clubs. It’s fucking epic, because she’s in a pantsuit with a curly shag, looking like a cross between David Lee Roth and Pat Benatar. And this was during an era when guys like Andrew Dice Clay were big, and she’s doing a Goodfellas shtick. What other woman was speaking that language?

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Rosie’s such an important figure for women. I’ll never forget introducing Aubrey Plaza to her. I was having dinner with Rosie and texting with Aubrey and I was like, “Why don’t you come over?” She came right over, and I’ve never seen Aubrey so starstruck. She’s such a weirdo and a cool cucumber, but it was almost like seeing Santa Claus—that someone who’s so iconic could be real. But that’s the beauty of someone like Rosie. She’s able to communicate, from a distance, to other young girls that it’s OK to be themselves. That’s a strength she’s personally given me.

Natasha Lyonne costars in Orange Is the New Black, which returns to Netflix this month. Rosie O’Donnell costars on Showtime’s SMILF.



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